Create Boundary Around area of map

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I am trying to use the "Boundary" feature of MM.  When I mouse over the button it says, "create boundary around topic and subtopic"  How can I create a boundary around Topics pural or an area of the map,  Id like to use it to visually distinguish things NOT ONLY a topics and its subtopics...

any way for a more flexible "boundary tool"... any hacks to creating this... (Please do not tell me about a $50 addon I can buy :)
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MindManager is, thank God, still mindmapping software.

The things you ask for are maybe possible if you export the map as image and than open it in a drawing tool like paint.
You could also print the map and draw a boundary with a colour pencil by hand.
( they come cheap ;-)
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based on your suggestion, how do i get the boundary back in mind map and continuing adding topics ?

i was not aware that MM has integrated with MS Paint to draws boundaries around topics or mind map areas and able to import back to MM and continue building Maps, topics subtopics... is that a new feature in MM-15?   I am currently on MM-14

thanks
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We misunderstand each-other.

The things you want are not in line with mindmapping rules that are used and followed by millions of users worldwide. Mindmap software is designed to support the benefits of mindmapping. I don't think it should be used just to make pretty pictures. There are better tools for that.

There is no integration with MS Paint As you have read in my earlier post it is just a solution to what you request.

Ofcourse you could import the image  as a picture in your map and then continue adding topics etc.
I doubt however that you will like the result.
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The boundary tool can only "bound" the selected topic and its subtopics. They can not overlap or bound multiple main topics. They can nest i.e. a subtopic within a boundary can also have a boundary.
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While I understand Ary's perspective on this, I do wish MindManager's boundary tool was a little more flexible.

One simple trick it could borrow from XMind is the ability to put around only some of a topic's sub-topics provided they are contiguous, as in this example:



Even better XMind allows the user to overlap boundaries, mixing the colours to reflect the shared areas. The following example actually has only two defined boundaries, yellow and red, but the overlapping area has been shaded orange:


These affects can be applied at the topic as well as the sub-topic level.

There are several potential uses for such a feature. For example it can be used to highlight groups of topics which meet certain conditions or which share common attributes, such "yes", "no" or "maybe" in a decision tree. The overlapping feature could be used to highlight topics which have distinct attributes and those which share them.

It's true that topic colours could be used in the same way, but I don't think this approach is as effective as the boundaries model. Besides, you may want to use topic colours for something else.

MindManager allows only a single boundary per parent topic or sub-topic which will incorporate all the sub-topics. If you attempt to highlight only a section of subtopics, they will each get their own boundary.

There is however a limited workaround which allows you to achieve the following:


Here the subtopics are actually sub-subtopics. There is actually an "invisible" subtopic for each boundary which is a dummy only with no text or fill colour and a line only for topic shape, which is in the same colour as the sub-subtopic lines. This approach does not allow for any overlapping and can be applied only at the subtopic level or lower.

I think the ability to insert multiple and potentially overlapping boundaries per topic would be a real plus for MM. I'll post this also as an idea.

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Hi ! I Think this must not stay an ideal but it is a real need. Merci beaucoup pour cet exposé détaillé
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It would be a great feature. I Think it can be used in more ways than you have already thought before... I feel, like its a very natural way of mindmapping. I dont know if some kind of organization develops mindmapping criteria, if there is, I think this should be discussed as a feature for the mindmapping framework (if such thing exists)... anyway, framework aside, I think Alex Gooding explains it perfectly, and it would be nice if this feature could be assesed for development by the MM Team.
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An alternative non-ideal approach is:

- When the map is complete (which they never are)
- Export the image
- Import to a drawing tool that supports layers e.g. Paint.net
- Draw a new layer with the boundaries required
- Save just the boundary layer
- Add as the background image for the map.