How do I reorganise a mindmap based on tags

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Hi all, I have a large MM (over 600 end nodes) in a 3 level context. These end nodes I have grouped by a single level theme using 80 General Tags.

Is there a simple way (or some sample macro code) that can reorganise the map nodes (and children) into a new map based on the general tag grouping that I have used.

I don't really want to filter>show Topics for each and then copy/paste.

Many thanks in advance,

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Great question. This kind of transformation would really bring maps to life. There is no built-in feature in MindManager to do this, but it could be done by a macro as you suggest.
The big caveat is that this transformation would place severe constraints on the use of markers. They would have to be mutually exclusive across marker groups as well as within groups. If not, then a transformation to a marker-based hierarchy could result in the same topic appearing twice in a map, which is not currently something that MindManager can support. The Map Marker index copes with multiple references to the same topic, but moving that into the map will immediately create duplication. It could be solved with hyperlinks or relationships, but that undermines the value of visualising information in connected sets. Or, it could be solved with topics that are synchronised in sets through a database. But it's a great problem to solve.
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Before getting to the Macro stage you can:

Filter
Save As - Save a copy of the filtered map (You can add this command to the Quick Access Toolbar by right clicking it)

You could use a general purpose Windows key stroke saver to do this. (I haven't used once recently, so can't recommend a specific app)
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Hi crew,

Thanks immensely for the responses.

@Andrew, I am trying to [re]assemble my map in a way that makes sense to the tags - mainly for presentation reasons, so do not really want to save as individual maps - even through the Multi/linked map features are absolutely amazing.

@Nick, I have the markers as not exclusive at this stage, for some of the end nodes are relevant to multiple tags.

The best context I can give is a competitive feature comparison, when a feature can exist in in more than one product. acting as a product manager, I want to see the feature format, however as a sales/pitch manager, I want to see what features I'm up against on a certain product.

I haven't played much with the coding/macro options as I haven't been able to find good sample code to play with, however if there are some good examples, then I'm happy to give it a try :-)

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There's a partial way to accomplish this today. It works for topic text but not all the other associated data...at least no yet. 

In the map index, there's a PLUS icon. If you click it, you can select 'Copy Index' from the menu. You can then paste the index into a new map and you'll have all the associated topics organized by markers. 

A future enhancement would be to keep all the meta data too (e.g. topic text, show markers, task info, etc...). 
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Michael,

This future enhancement will be very helpful only with links back to the original map.
The new map allows you to see the contents of the original map from a different perspective. 
This new view shows some improvements that were not seen before.
Then it is natural to want to change some things in the original map from the new map.

The same applies to "Linked maps" and "Combine all". The new map will be very helpful with links back to the original maps.
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I agree Thierry,

It's almost like another rendition of the same map, only with a different thematic taxonomy.

If each node had its own state, and the thematic taxonomy was a separate (independent) data structure within the map, then switching might be really simple - almost like the power filter, or the rendition in the tag window that shows in the hierarchy in the side window : Group>tag>node...?

Either linking to the other rendition, of allowing it the coexist would be equally useful.
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We actually have just ONE LARGE MAP with all the content of all our trainings.
And we use tags, text colours etc because we provide trainings around various subjects -like operations management, knowledge management, projectmanagement, etc.

We do NOT make new maps, because that can cause errors and duplicates.
We simply use POWERFILTER to select only the topics and subtopics that we need for the subject theme we train that day.

This saves a lot of time. So if one of use gives a projectmanagement training, she uses exactly the same map as some other colleague who gives a knowledge management training. We just filter out our training goal for the day.

You may consider this as well.
(although any improvement to the software as suggested, is always welcome ;-)
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I tested this approach but I prefer to have some maps. This seems to me more effective. For example, my "outside projets" tasks and my list of projects are in different maps (I try to organize myself according to the principles of GTD). I don't make new maps. 
I don't think I'm the only one using some maps. This is why the "linked maps" and "Combine all" are presents. But it lacks links back to the original maps.
Fortunately, ResultsManager add-in exist. Thank you very much to Nick Duffill who is also creator of Power Markers.
Désolé pour mon anglais.
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Hi Ary, that's exactly what I've had to do.... thanks so much for sharing your solution.

What a clever product this is, and a really clever way to show a filtered view across a large topic - that's one impressive map. I also did a similar thing for my Masters degree. It was awesome to go into an open book exam with only 12 mind maps for each unit.

I have over 2,000 end points to manage. It prints out as 4x2 A3 pages and is just legible, however way too much hierarchical information to digest in one sitting.

I was hoping to 'pivot' the map based on a new theme (tag group) so that I can show that each thematic grouping (containing over 50 sub items) in a different way so that there are only 5-10 sub items - or less difficult choices for users.

Here's hoping a new feature is on the way??