I would like to keep the numbering of my items the same whether I filter my list or not. I am using MindManager 2012 for Windows.

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I added two images as an example. The first one shows a main topic with 3 subtopics (First, Second, Third) which have their own subtopcs. I'd like to show a filtered map (based on flag and markers) while keeping the original numbering in the first map. It does not seem to work as you can see in the second image. Can it be done? Can you help?
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Daniele,

This isn't possible yet. I'm going to talk to the team to see how difficult this would be. For now, I'll move this into the 'idea' category.

Michael
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Daniele

This is a good question. There are scenarios in which numbering of filtered topics is both necessary and unnecessary. Where you are using the topic numbering as a reference, as you are, the numbers should stay the same whether or not filtering is applied. But if you have private topics (e.g. for background information) that you filter out before publishing a map, then numbering of filtered topics would be undesirable. Ideally, there would be a per-map option to include or exclude filtered topics in the numbering.

In the meantime, it would be possible to create a little macro that transfers automatic topic numbers into the topic text itself, so that they become part of the topic text, and you can then turn off the automatic numbering. Filtering the map would leave the same reference numbers on the topics. It would also need to be able to refresh or reverse this back out again. Would this work as a temporary solution?
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As well as Nick's suggestion to be able to include or exclude filtered topics on a per-map basis, it would be great to have a facility to exclude numbering for specific topics and their branches.

This would be helpful to deal with background information which you may want to include in the map but not as part of the set of numbered topics. It would also make it easier to generate reports and other documents in which not all the sections are numbered, eg, where the first section is an unumbered introduction but all the other sections/chapters are numbered.
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Great suggestions!
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Daniele Thibodeau

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You grasped the issue perfectly. So what are the next steps?
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It's in the queue to be evaluated for future development. The more 'votes' it gets here in the forum can help prioritize it higher than other features.
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Here is an experimental macro that embeds automatic numbering into the topic text, and can also remove it again. This could be used prior to filtering a map before a presentation or other export, where you want the topic numbering to be preserved.

The process is:
(1) Unfilter the map to make sure nothing is hidden.
(2) Apply automatic topic numbering.
(3) Run this macro and select "Refresh" to embed topic numbering into the topic texts.
(4) Turn off the automatic topic numbering.

The topic texts now contain the same numbers, but as part of their text. If you filter the map, they do not change.

You can also select "Remove" to remove these texts back out of your topics, but ONLY if you have not edited them. If you edit the numbers themselves in the topic text, they can't be automatically removed and will have to be manually removed.

This is only a workaround pending any future enhancements by Mindjet to the automatic topic numbering system, but might be enough to help with the use of map numbering and filtering. I have not tested it with any linear exports so I don't know what effect it might have on an export to Word.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4tlqg1y2yfq...

To install this macro to Mindjet for Windows or MindManager 2012 for Windows:
- Download and save it somewhere convenient
- Inspect the text if you have security concerns - it is a plain text file
- In the View tab, click Macros > Organize Macros > Add New
- Give it a suitable title and path to the saved file, and add it to a menu (e.g. the Backstage Export menu)

You can then launch it from your selected menu. Warning: as it modifies topic texts, I recommend that you only use it on copies of your maps, and not on original maps.
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It works beautifully. Many thanks.