Is there a way to manually adjust the position of topics so they stay where you want them on a map?

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Here is my problem - I have a org-chart map with the primary topic at the top and then four subtopics below (in a straight, horizontal line across). Each of the subtopics 4-5 sub-sub topics associated with them that are in a right-handed tree style. I want the primary topic at the top centered to the four subtopics below, however the map will not let me move the primary topic to where I want it (between the second and third subtopics). Instead, the primary topic is skewed to the right because the first and second subtopics have longer sub-sub topics than the third and fourth.

I am using MM9 for Mac on OS 10.7.3. I have balance map off - the only way I have been able to center the primary topic is to output to jpeg and use photoshop. Any suggestions? I want to keep all of my sub-sub topics as one line (since automatic numbering doesn't number from the top).

Thanks

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Brittney Mazzetta

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MindManager 9 balances the map by design.

As a workaround, try holding down the Shift button, drag the topic to make a floating topic and then move the topic around to where you would like it to go in the map.

Please let me know if this works for you.
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Sorry - that doesn't work - it just puts it back in the same "balanced" place as before...
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I have MM10. Similar problem. the Slider is centered and whenever i move the object the slider still has main topic centered. It does not reposition on the page
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You can slide a main topic to the left or right by dragging the Main Topic Handles (little circle) on the left hand side of the topic in MindManager for Windows with an org chart layout. This may not be possible for the Mac version. I could not see the circle in your image but could identify a small line sticking out of the left hand side of the topic. Again on the PC in the View ribbon > Show/Hide enables you to hide the Main Topic Handles which disables moving them by this method.
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Does my tip work on the Mac?
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Tried your tip! Theorectically, yes it should work on the Mac (I can show the topic handles and then move the main topics), however when I move the main topics even a couple of millimeters, it switches the order of them and screws up all of the numbering, height, and position. So it seems it should work...but it just doesn't.

I was able to get use someone's else's computer with Mindjet for Windows 2012 on it - there it worked perfectly as you described. However, when I took the saved file and opened it on my Mac again, the Mac version didn't recognize the changes in the positions of the topics, repositioned them, and also changed out the fonts (even though I didn't change the fonts in Windows) - so there is some obvious incompatibility going on between the two versions.
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Though for subtopics such a handle can be found, it is not available for the central topic and it appears impossible to move the central topic off the center of the page
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Alternatively you could change the length of the longer sub-topics to make the map more balanced. Use Shift + Return to word-wrap the longer sub-sub topics so that they have multiple lines but are narrower, or use the resizing tool (I forget what its proper name is!) - the two little arrows in the top left-hand corner of a topic - to achieve a similar result.
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Thanks for the tip -unfortunately though, I am trying to use this as a figure for presentation, and when I word wrap long topics, the numbering issue arises and the subtopics look funny (with the numbering at the bottom of the text instead of the top) - so I have to either renumber everything manually (time consuming and I built this to be a dynamic document that will change over time) or just stick with everything on a single line...
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Another option would be to go the other way - lengthen a topic in the column with shorter subtopics to be as long as the subtopic with the most text in the other columns, so at least all the columns in your org-chart layout would be evenly (if widely) spaced.

Unfortunately MM doesn't let you set a fixed with for topics and subtopics, though you can set a preferred width and a set right margin. This buffers the right margin by the amount you choose so you would only apply these settings to shorter topics and even then they wouldn't be even unless they each had exactly the same number of characters which means that it would be difficult to get all subtopics to exactly the same width.

However this issue isn't a problem if you don't have the subtopics in boxes as the varaition would not be noticeable. Also you would only need to apply this approach to one subtopic in the column with shorter subtopics to force the whole column to be wider.
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This is exactly the reason I sadly head back to Visio often. How can we get this as a feature request please? Steve Wood
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Hi Steve. If you submit this as an idea, people can vote on it and our product team can then prioritize this for future releases. I hope this helps!
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Brittney, I'm surprised you folks in tech support continue to respond with "please tell our product team." Something is broken at MindJet between tech support and product development if support has to keep begging us to step in with your product team. The issue of trying to turn off auto-balance has been going on for a long time, and well vocalized on the web. It is plain stupid that the program won't allow us to place topics by hand without later the program taking over and doing us a 'favor' by balancing the diagram. This is maddening.
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Hi Larry. Thank you for your feedback. Currently, MindManager for Mac balances maps as designed. This is a feature request for our product team to evaluate and implement based on user feedback. I have personally notified our product team of this topic, however, it is very helpful for MindManager for Mac users to provide their suggestions and vote on those opinions in order to better improve our products.

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