Merging flowcharts and conventional maps - and a problem with this website

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To start with the second issue first, I posted a comment to the following conversation: https://community.mindjet.com/mindjet/topics/convert-a-topic-to-a-flow-chart-item which has appeared OK in the conversation, but is not shown in the list of responses to the conversation thread on the home page nor has it affected its position in the list of conversations. In other words you wouldn't know my reply was there unless you clicked on the thread.

I thought however it was worth reposting my comments here as they were more about the former issue and I would be curious to compare experiences on the merging of flowcharts/concept maps with concept maps. This is a slightly edited version:

The interaction between the "traditional" MM map elements and the new flow chart and concept map features is interesting. As I said in a couple of earlier threads on this issue, flow charts and concept maps appear largely to be cosmetic overlays which apply special formatting to what is really a set of floating topics linked by relationship lines.

This becomes clearer when you copy either and paste into a standard map, where the relationships between the flow chart and concept map elements are turned into conventional relationship lines. It seems the best way to integrate either with a standard map is to go the other way - ie, start with the flow chart or concept map, add at least the primary level of concepts or flow chart elements and then select either the start topic/concept and/or any of the other elements and change the layout from flowchart (which is the default for both flow charts and concept maps) to one of the standard MM mapping layouts.

This turns the chosen topic(s) into floating topic(s) to which all future additions will be standard subtopics, but does not affect the other existing flow chart or concept map topics or their relationship line formatting. In addition the flow chart or concept map formatting will still be applied to any topics or concepts added to topics which have not been "converted" in this way.

You have to be careful though moving any of these concepts or topics around as there is a tendency for the topics which have been converted into floating topics to "grab" the topic and subsume it into one of the added conventional subtopics (play around with this on a map and you will see what I mean).

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The same problem seems to have occurred with a comment I posted to this thread: https://community.mindjet.com/mindjet/topics/copy-and-paste-a-callout - the comment is there but the fact that I have commented doesn't appear in the list of conversations.

Edit: Also in the second paragraph of the post above I meant "...compare experiences on the merging of flowcharts/concept maps with ordinary mind maps".

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The website seems to be working for me, in hindsight. Maybe there is a delay or caching?
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Or you are fooled by the fact that I replied before you got to see yourself in the community thread. That would put me as the last poster for the thread again. I was quite active last week...
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(Since you repeated your comment here I will repeat my answer too..)

There is a point at starting with a chart or concept map as you say. However, you loose the formatting and other benefits of the Central topic which cannot be retrieved again, to my knowledge (appears to be made permanently invisible when turned into a flowchart). And moving later on to another map is also made impossible due to the copy & paste limitation (that cannot be solved as easily as the callout copy and paste limitiation).