Mindjet 14 - Index copy does not work the same as in Mindjet 11

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In Mindjet 11 if I went to Marker Index and clicked the copy icon. It copied all my tags and the topics associated with the tags. I found this a very useful feature and created reports using this function. In Mindjet 14, Marker Index has disappeared and now I just have Index. If right click on a tag category and click copy, I just get the tags but not the associated topics. i do not see any way to get the associated topics the same as in 11.
Is there a way to do this in 14 or is this functionality gone?
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Roland Beauregard

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Michael Deutch, Official Rep

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Roland,

It is temporarily gone and we're planning to reintroduce it with the 14.1 update. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Thanks,
Michael
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Roland Beauregard

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Thanks for the reply. I will be looking forward to that update. Any timeline for 14.1?
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Michael Deutch, Official Rep

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We'll work to get it out asap but I cannot post the date in advance as the release just went out the door and we're gauging the feedback against the current planned scope.
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I'm also curious as to how long the update will take, not to mention why what would seem to be a fairly basic function such as the ability to copy the index to the clipboard has disappeared.

Of greater concern to me however is why and how the macros pack which complemented the Marker Index and which incorporated more advanced functions such as Active Index has also disappeared in version14, though I must say I'm not very surprised.

This was one of the most powerful if perhaps not well understood aspects of the Power Index package which MJ bought to create the marker Index. Among other things it allowed users to set up conditional formatting for incomplete tasks based on their start and due dates in a lot more sophisticated way than MM's simple at risk and past due categories.

If the macros can't be reinstated then MJ should consider adopting one of the following two options (specifically in this case relating to task due dates):

1. Expand the new SmartFill feature (which incidentally I quite like) from just using numeric data to also be able to set conditional formatting at the topic level related to due dates and level of completion; OR

2. Give the user the ability to add additional date options to the current Past Due and At Risk topic colour formatting options on the Task Info tab.
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Michael Deutch, Official Rep

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Our goal will be to get the copy to index back in the next service release. The timing can't be published yet, sorry.

Also noted in the release notes was the fact that the unsupported feature of macros which were a carry over from the product we bought, PowerMarkers, will also not be supported any longer.

The reason it wasn't supported had to do with a number of bugs that were created when using the feature in a collaborative, shared map experience plus the feature, as you mentioned, was difficult to use / learn.

Our vision and goal is to build this type of capability into MindManager with an interface that makes the power much more accessible to the majority of our users.

Also, I'd like to see us replace the current 'past due' and 'at risk' conditional formatting with an updated version of our SmartFill.

Thanks for your suggestions. We're working hard to bring you these and other improvements.
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Thanks for the prompt response.

My extensive use of PowerMarkers (and subsequently the Marker Index macro pack add-in based on PowerMarkers) has made me realise that conditional formatting based on topic fill colour is one of the best ways to read a large map, as you can see at a glance the overall "health" of a project as well as being able to identify quickly any tasks which require urgent action.

I also agree that implementing conditional formatting via an expanded SmartFill feature is probably the best way to do this. I would suggest that (a) the choice of topic attribute and parameters continue to be user-defined (and obviously expanded to include dates etc as well as numbers) and (b) the range of fill options be increased from three to at least six.

I will also post this as an idea on the forum so there can be wider discussion of this suggestion.The only relatively minor downside that I can see is that while in theory you could apply conditional formatting to a range of topic characteristics like font size and colour as well as topic fill colour, the latter is by far the most obvious visually. Therefore for all intents and purposes you can apply only one set of parameters for conditional formatting to each map.