MM12 add-ins and Mindjet 11 - which ones work?

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Somewhat reluctantly (in view of the subscription issues which I and many others have raised) I'm contemplating upgrading from MM12 to a MJ11 perpetual licence.

However I'm an extensive MM add-in user and before I upgrade I thought I'd find out what sort of experience people have had with MM12 add-ins in MJ11 - what works, what doesn't and which ones require newer versions. I know I can contact individual companies about this but I thought I'd also find out what the practical experience of other users has been.

I use the following, but I'm also interested in whether other MM12 add-ins work as well; this could be turned into a reference list of MJ11-compatible add-ins:

- Marker Index add-in pack (to my mind, the original Power Markers was one of the most impressive and least understood MM add-ins);
- OPTi-Word;
- OPTi-Suite (now OPTi-Add-ins);
- Word4Maps (I think this needs an upgrade);
- Map2Excel;
- MindMap Navigator;
- MasterMap Linker (which never seemed to work properly in MM12);
- MapFolderMaker;
- MediaNoteTaker.
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Hi Alex,

Firstly Happy New Year to you.

Olympic have updated most of our add-ins for Mindjet 11 and had done so since shortly after the 11.0.x release in September 2012.

Since the 11.1.x SP1 release we did get reports of some issues which we are sorting through. It seems that SP1 introduced some changes that affected connection of add-ins and some other issues we are working on.

At this point in time we have updated the following add-ins which seem to be stable with 11.0.x. and 11.1.x versions of Mindjet 11:

OPTi-P2 (English language only)
OPTi-Word
OPTi-Add-ins
OPTi-Docs
The Biggerplate Add-in


As you have mentioned some Mindlogik add-ins above, (and as you know Olympic are working closely with Mindlogik on add-in development and legacy MindManager user support), I will address some of those as well. Currently the Mindlogik add-ins that are compatible with Mindjet 11 are:

MapFolderMaker
ExcelMapUpdater


All of these add-ins can be accessed from the Olympic download page located here: Olympic Downloads.

As with all our previous version updates there is no cost for existing licence holders when switching to versions that are compatible with the new Mindjet 11.

MODi (Mindlogik & Olympic Development Initiative) Add-ins that are available in Mindjet 11 versions are:

BoxIT4Maps
Word4Maps


These are available through the MODi website located here: www.MODi4Maps.com

We, (Olympic Mindlogik & collectively MODi) will continue to support legacy users of MindManager as well as new users of Mindjet 11 for as long as is practical and we hope that we can continue to deliver useful add-ins that help users get the most from MindManager/Mindjet whatever the version they are using.

Olympic Limited
Mindlogik Limited
MODi4Maps.com
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Thanks for the feedback on the Olympic/Mindlogik/MODi add-ins. I should have looked at the add-in list and twigged that collectively you guys were responsible for most of them!

In relation to the other add-ins on my list:

MindMap Navigator and MasterMap Linker: No word on the http://www.mind2chart.com/ website about MJ11 versions. The site seems to be out of date.

Map2Excel: Version released for Mindjet 11.

Marker Index add-in pack: Mindjet posted this response regarding the add-in pack on another thread a few months ago:

"..the marker index is still included in the desktop app. We addressed minor issues with the index to improve overall performance with the rest of the app. The add-in pack is not a supported Mindjet offering but we will continue to provide it for users that request it."

When pressed on whether the pack is fully functional, the response was:

"There are no material changes since the last release of the pack that I'm aware of. Since it isn't fully supported, there's a slight chance a bug may pop up here or there."

I'd still appreciate feedback on how any of these add-ins have performed in actual MJ11 upgrades.
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Hello Alex

The extension pack for Marker Index is working on Mindjet 11 for Windows as far as I can see. It is a new download and install - the version for MM2012 does not install for Mindjet 11.
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Thanks Nick
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Nick,

I am currently evaluating Mindjet 11. Where can I download the extension pack for Marker Index, please?

Thanks a lot,
E.
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Hello Egor

The download is available by contacting Mindjet support.

Please note that it is not designed as a feature extension for new users of Mindjet 11, but only restores some features from the former Power Markers version 3 on MindManager 9. The download does not include any documentation for these features in Mindjet 11, as it assumes that users from MindManager 9 will already be familiar with them.
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Thanks, I'll contact support then.

Is there any other solution you could recommend, by MindJet or third-party, that would parse the mind maps and generate separate todo lists grouped by resource, priority, etc, like Gyronix' ResultsManager did for Mindjet 9? I find the mind maps only half as usable without it, and filtering alone just doesn't cut it.

Thanks again,
E.
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Have you seen Mindjet Tasks?
You can send (part of) the mindmap to Mindjet tasks attach them to a project and you can group by resource, priority etc.
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I really don't like the fact Gyronix ResultsManager doesn't work anymore under MM2012 and Mindjet 11. I find it a real loss and still hope Mindjet will take a serious attitude on this very useful product or buy it :-).
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I agree completely. I will probably even go as far as buy a fresh MM 9 license just so I can run ResultsManager, if I can find one to buy.
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This is funny,
I fully agree that Mindjet should offer the opportunity to run Resultsmanager again.
(and they should offer maplinker, and full JCV Gantt and Powermaker functionality as well)

But, @Egor, have you tried Mindjet Tasks?
Did you find what you want? Or did I misunderstand your request?
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@Egor, you can do this after a fashion if you sync tasks to Outlook, at least in MM2012.

Priorities are exported with tasks to Outlook, so it's fairly straightforward to use Outlook to produce task lists sorted by priority.

Syncing categories between MM and Outlook is much more complicated but doable, as I indicate in a post on this thread: https://community.mindjet.com/mindjet/topics/synchronize_task_in_organized_to_do_list#reply_9529194 Once synced you should be able to prepare task lists in Outlook based on category.

The one area I'm not sure about however is resources. I'dont think these are exported to Outlook but I haven't looked at this in detail as I generally don't allocate resources.
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ARY,

I have finally found time to read up on Mindjet Tasks, and it looks to be a far cry from what ResultsManager does for me.
As far as I can tell, more or less all Mindjet Tasks does is display task lists, grouped by project.
Apparently it uses a different interface to display them (web?), so even if it does support all the filtering I want, I have to learn a new set of reflexes to use it fast.
Here are some features of ResultsManager that I use heavily as I'm managing several interlinked projects with dozens of people involved and a budget of several million:

- Deadlines grouped by date and then by context, where context can also be 'talk to person X', in a handy-to-navigate tree
- Distinct tagging of contexts, areas, and categories
- Interpret mind maps as dependency trees, and only display those tasks I could do right now, ie with no undone prerequisites
- Lists of tasks I owe to each person and tasks they owe to me
- List of projects with no Next action
- Display it all as a mind map in the same application as the original map, so I don't have to switch between two sets of mouse reflexes to use it (filter, modify task attributes) without thinking

All these are features I'm making heavy use of, and have in fact gone to the trouble of finding a reseller with a copy of MindManager 9 to sell so I can keep using it once the trial is over, and don't see myself switching to the newer versions until I get comparable functionality, be it builtin or from the plugin. I have lots of colleagues who I think could benefit from this too, so am surprised Mindjet is passing up the revenues by not supporting the plugin.
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Egor, I believe that's a fine assessment, and I agree. Gyronix and I had some discussion about the issue and don't think Mindjet will make a move soon. Like you, I'm at the point to move back to MM9 as I still own a licence.