Possible bug: "Focus on topic" (f3) only shows one level of sub-branches

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When using the "Focus on Topic" (f3 keyboard shortcut) in MindManager 2019, it only ever displays one level of sub-branches.

It should instead fill up the screen space available with the "optimum" layout.

I've tried this one two different machines in MindManager 2019 and the problem still happens.

This was working in MindManager 2018. 
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David Walsh, Official Rep

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Hi 

I apologize but this is as designed in 2019, this was changed after receiving feedback from various customers on what they believe the intended behavior of the short-cut should be. To display all levels of the branch currently you can use  Alt+Shift+> . I will ask product to see if we can do a single key shortcut for this in a future release.

Thanks 
David 
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Thanks for the reply. But I don't think just chaining the Alt+Shift+> shortcut on the end replaces the feature.

The F3 shortcut had some intelligence to it in the sense that it would figure out how much space there was on the screen, how zoomed in you were, and open the branches down to an optimum level.

It was one of my most valued and used shortcuts on MindManager and I've been using it for many years. It is now painful to manually open the branches level by level, or else see them all at once and reposition the screen.

Please bring back the original behavior, or else introduce a new shortcut that brings it back. I can't be alone in using these feature.
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I have tried to persevere without this "F3" feature and I have to say the removal of this feature has made MindManager 2019 unusable for me and I am going back to version 2018.

I am a heavy user with an annual maintenance agreement. If this feature is not put back, I will not be moving on further than version 2018 and won't be renewing.
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Sia Banihashemi, Official Rep

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Hi,

Thanks for your feedback. We made this change in an attempt to make the behavior of the Focus on Topic command more consistent in all scenarios. Based on your feedback it seems that you appreciated the previous behavior's dynamic behavior even though it seemed inconsistent at times.

We are currently working on a way to set your preference for the behavior of this command between the new behavior or the previous behavior. Our goal is to have this available in our next service update.
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Thank you for the response.

That would be great if this feature could be put back. It might not be "consistent" but it's a tremendously valuable thing (because it is so dynamic) that has kept me using MindManager for years (over its competitors)
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Colin Horner

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MJ has also removed the ability to Filter on a Topic and view the Topic and it's Descendants, in preparation for another Filter.  I am not sure what feedback you use or rely on to change / modify capabilities in new versions but it certainly cannot be experienced users 
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Hi Colin, 

I'm not aware of the removal of any filter functionality. Per the below screenshot you can filter on a topic by selecting Show, Fade, or Hide, then "Selected Topic."


If you are experiencing some loss of functionality in this area, it's likely a defect. It would be very helpful if you could provide more details about the missing functionality so that we can investigate and fix it. 

Also, regarding feedback, we conducted an extensive beta for version 2019 with over 150 beta testers, we deeply care about customer feedback and your experience. If you would like to be included in future beta programs please contact feedback@mindjet.com.

Thanks!
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Hi Sia I understand the Show Selected Topic Filter in MM2019, but it only shows the Parent Topic in the Filtered View  I need to see the full Topic structure that is filtered.  As far as I can see you lost this capability with MM 2018.  Go back to MM 2017 and compare what happens with a 'Show Selected Topic' filter
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Hi Colin,

If you want to see the selected topic with the "full topic structure" as you referred to it, then it sounds like you are looking for the "Show branch alone" (F4) command.

Before:


After



Does that work for you?
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Sia Banihashemi, Official Rep

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Hi Colin,

One more thing I forgot to mention, in MM 2018 we made a change to the filters to allow users to control whether filter results show descendants or not. We did this because we got a bunch of feedback that the filter was showing descendants that didn't match the filter criteria. If you did Show P1 for example, all descendants  would still be shown if their parent was a P1 even if the subtopics were not P1.

To address this feedback, we introduced a setting called (Filter) "Results display exact matches" that controls whether the filter is strict about matching results (new behavior) or not (old behavior). You can adjust this setting under File/Options/Filter, and uncheck "Results display exact matches."



Let me know if this restores the behavior you are looking for.
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Hi Sia many thanks for the Feedback, and the Heads Up on the change from 2018.  This is perfect for my requirements, and works correctly for me when I change the Option.  Much appreciated
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Hi Sia many thanks for your FollowUP However, having reviewed the Filter Options introduced in MM2018 I think they are practically useless Can we possibly engage in some real life examples and then maybe develop forward 

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Hi Colin,

Sure thing, I'll email you to set up a meeting.

Thanks,