Problem with export to MS Project: Relationships not turning into links?

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Hi all, I am giving a demo of MindJet at an online conference very soon (http://projectvirtualconference.com/speakers/jigs-gaton/) and I can't get the export to work correctly... In V14, the relationships turned to links - or was I dreaming back then? None of the tasks with relationships become linked when I do the export from V15 to MS Project 2013 in Windows 10. Everything else seems to work. Can a kind soul please advise? thx!!!
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I have not tested it so this is just a guess, but have you set dependency types on the relationships? Plain ones might not be exported. You can open the Task Info pane, select a relationship in the map and set the dependency type.
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Nick, first, thx for your lightning-speed support - much appreciated, and second, my bad. Duh, I had no dependencies set, as I though setting a relationship automagically would set a finish-start dependency. A temporary mind-lapse fixed with your help, thx again. 
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Jiggy my relationships always become predecessors when converting to MS Project.  Is that what you mean when you say 'links'?
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Dave, I just deleted all the relationships that I made using the Add Relationship click, and replaced with FS, SS dependencies. All is well, thx. 
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Sounds like my friend Nick nailed it.  Glad to hear resolved Jiggy!
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Some time ago just adding relationships was enough to create a dependency. I don't understand why Mindjet moved away from the graphic process to a form filling one.
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I think the only change is that you now must set the relationship as F->S, S->F, etc. before the export. Relationships without dependancies are the only ones that are lost during export.  Makes sense to me :) 
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Well... I've used MindManager since 2001. As a former software developer, I get a little frustrated when vendors deprecate functionality under the auspices of "making improvements". The additional step of adding the dependency type to the relationship is not economical, especially since I port my initial schedule details developed in MindManager to other commercial CPM schedule management applications. This should have been an "optionable" feature OR -- like most commercial CPM schedule management applications -- the assumption should be if NO dependency relationship type is specified by the user, the relationship type is FS.
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There still is a use case in project maps for relationships that are not dependencies, and there are also relationship types that cannot be dependencies (i.e. those with arrowheads at both ends, arrowheads at neither end, or which are not connected to a task topic). A macro that upgraded single-arrow relationships between tasks to F2S dependencies could add some value here. 
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Yes, a macro might work (but beyond my abilities) - Mindjet might also consider an option to make the default relationship FS, which was what it was years ago, right? 
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Having written several add-on applications for Microsoft Project and one add-on for MindJet (to simplify cataloging research articles in file folders by adding folder names as topic nodes, the articles in those file folders as related subtopics, and establishing a hyperlink to the related *.PDF file), I started to go down that path. However, I needed to complete the work for my client, so I just haven't gone back to that. 

However, MindJet should provide the option whereby if NO relationship type is specified, and there's only 1 arrowhead (as opposed to a relationship with arrowheads on both ends), the arrowhead is pointing to a successor in a FS relationship.
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Ps. all, On October 23rd I'll be demonstrating this feature of the export, as well as others right here (thx in part to your help :) http://projectvirtualconference.com/sessions/using-your-mindmap-to-quickly-structure-your-next-proje...
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