Support for Word cross indexes and foot notes in future version?

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When writing scientific articles where cross references and foot notes are needed, the only way to put in references today is to insert eg. Endnote indexes directly in the text and after export let Endnote take care of building endnotes.
Some publishers want such things as cross references and then after export you have to mark each references and format them into cross references or foot/endnotes.

Maybe this would be easier if such things can be performed when writing in Mindmanager by introducing a new tag like inserting pointers to articles on net, but which is expanded in word as foot/endnote/cross references. Then the exported article can be ready for print/publishing immediately and thus getting a far greater value for the users,
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Sounds interesting, do you have an example of how this would look like in the map?
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Are you talking about the ability to tag text within topic notes as foot/end notes or as cross references, or being able to apply such tags to the whole topic?

While I can see that either would be great to have to have I think it's probably asking a lot of MindManager to be capable of handling such specialised tasks. However I suggest having a look at the WordX2 add-in for MindManager from Olympic Ltd. This gives you a lot more flexibility in applying Word styles to MM topics, so for example you can have sub-topics at the same level with different Word styles. It also gives you a wider range of topic properties which can be exported.

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I can understand why you like writing articles etc in MindManager because of the visual overview benefits etc.

The Cross referencing and foot notes are not possible in MindManager.
I understand that some scientist use that a lot in their work to avoid plagiasm claims etc.

If you have your concept ready in MindManager you could export to MS Word. Direct of via the AddIn form Olympic ltd (see above)

Maybe you can add footnotes in MS Word? That is what my editor requires for layout etc. So seems the logic place for it.
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Yes, I know it is not possible of today.
That's why I add these as suggestions for making MM even better :-)
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The intention of the suggestion is for when MindManager is used as an editor for text that should be exported to word for further handling.
It already supports inserting references to EndNote entries like
This is a text with a reference {Zweers, 2017 #76998} which, when text is exported to Word, the Endnote add-in will format to appropriate format as chosen.

I see also that the link editor also maybe can be expanded to usage for crossreferences if you open Word and go to the Reference tab and play with the different possibilities in Word, like citations, foot note, end note etc. etc.
If installing a trial edition of Endnote, the suggestions could be tested in details.
The addition will open a new field for at least researchers and alike who need to cite other articles, like also genealogists (who can use MindManager also for presentation of families and alike)
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This is an interesting idea but I think the fundamental problem is that the Notes editor in MindManager is very basic and needs a complete overhaul. I'm not saying it should offer all the features of Word but it should be a lot more capable than it is - and there are a few features that are probably more of a priority to add ahead of cross referencing and footnoting.

In the short term a better option may be to explore the potential for macros in Word to handle references in the way that EndNotes currently does. I'm no expert on Word macros but I think it would be possible to create one which worked with a set of codes applied to text in a MM topic note where you wanted, say, a footnote to appear in the final document. When you export it to Word you would run the macro which would create the footnotes.

In fact after typing the preceding paragraph I searched for references on converting a text string within a Word document into a footnote and the following was the second hit to come up. The OP wanted to be able to convert a string within double square brackets into footnotes and the answer is that it's quite possible: http://www.msofficeforums.com/word-vba/29948-word-macro-selecting-text-putting-footnotes.html

There are a few glitches with the initial macro code (apparently it created static rather than dynamic footnote numbering) so it's worth reading through to the end to see how they were ironed out. It does appear to work however and obviously it would be easy to apply double square brackets or something similar in topic notes in MM and then run this macro in Word. Variations of this technique could be applied to other forms of referencing. If you feel you don't have the skills to try this yourself there are plenty of people around with expertise in Word macros who could help.

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